OH MY GOODNESS YOU GUYS!
And you know what?
HE SAID YES!
WE ARE GOING TO SEE MR DODGSON IN COLOR GUYS!
Just to clarify though: a pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted by children, they can describe it as love, but it’s still harmful, even if they don’t attempt anything.
Mr Dodgson did loved children, but I’m convinced it was in a non-sexual way. That’s why I don’t like it when people say “he was a pedophile, but there is no record of him harming children, so it’s okay!”. No, it’s not okay: if he actually has been a pedophile, then his pictures of chrildren would have a totally different meaning than it really has. It would be downright creepy and masochist, and I’m sure he wasn’t like that.
I’m sorry about this comment, mabye you already knew what I mean. I just needed to add something.
"Something you would change about Wonderland/Looking-Glass Land"
Why would I want to change anything about these two glorious books?
Mabye I’m not the most modest person on earth but I know where to stop! I would never dare to criticize Lewis Carroll’s work. I completely lack objectivity on this specific subject.
I admit that a chapter bores me in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, but that’s the only thing I would change, or cut. Like the Wasp in the Wig for Through the Lokking Glass, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland would have been better without the Lobster Quadrille chapter.
But it remains perfect either way :)
Favorite Alice-related thing you own/wish you owned
For now, the favorite Alice-related thing I own is the book The Story of Alice in her Oxford Wonderland. Both the story and the drawings are adorable. I love everything about it.
Alice Challenge: Day 23
"Favorite portrayal of Alice"
Why that? Because I like to see a strong-willed Alice, just like she is in the book. I admit that both the video game and the movie forgot to give her moments of weakness, when she feels shy or afraid. I can understand why they made it this way in the game because the player needed a strong character to play with, but regarding the animated movie, I would have loved to see an Alice with both strenght and weaknesses.
Once again, I definitely need to watch more adaptations. I’m sure the ideal Alice is out somewhere ^^
Alice Challenge, Day 22
"A song that reminds you of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and/or Through the Looking-Glass."
I admit it, I chose the easy way with this song. But come to think of it, how could I get wrong? This music embodies the feeling of nostalgia associated with the Alice books. It sounds to me like a prayer to get back something long gone, to find back the innocence and the magic of childhood, far away from the sadness and the dreadful weight of reality.
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"Character would you like to know more about"
It’s a bit strange because he’s far from being my favorite character but I would love to know more about the Mad Hatter. Especially how exactly he “made friends” with time and invited the Hare and the Dourmouse to his Mad Tea party. During the challenge, I realised that the Mad Hatter was more complex than I thought it was, and I would love to know more about him.
"If you could meet Lewis Carroll in person, what would you like to ask him or discuss with him?"
How does one puts a dream into words?
What do you think makes Carroll’s books so unique? What sets them apart from other children’s books?
I think what makes Lewis Carroll’s work particulary interesting and unique is the passion he put into his writing. He was a very creative and talented man but also a perfectionist, and he succeded in giving his readers his very best (at least for the Alice books and the Hunting of the Snark, I haven’t read Sylvie and Bruno yet but apparently he didn’t take the time to revise it). He managed to write in his very own litterary style, and I can’t think of any earlier writer whose style was similar to his.
Regarding the Alice stories, I find them to be very close to some of Andersen’s fairy tales, where most of the characters are also young children who explore the world in order to accomplish themselves (I’m referring to Thumbelina and The Ugly Duckling in particular). I’m sure that Lewis Carroll have read those fairy tales and they must have been a part of his inspiration for the Alice Books. However, the main difference between the Alice books and others fairy tales, is that the adventures of Alice takes place in her dreams, and not in a “real”, material world. I think it was very unique and to built the character of Alice within her own mind: her imagination gradually turns her into a more confident young lady. At least it is my interpretation…
I’ve recently learned that Lewis Carroll had thought about a moral to give to Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. In a letter to Lilia MacDonald he wrote:
It gave me another reason to think that Alice was about finding self-confidence and self-respect, and the importance of becoming an independant person.
What made you fall in love with Alice?
I might have answered this question partly in the “favorite adaptation” post I made, but if I had already said too much, I don’t mind repeating it :)
What got me interested in the Alice books was, well… curiosity! I don’t think I would ever have read them if I haven’t told myself: "Hm, this American McGee video game is pretty good! But how is the original material like? I wonder…" Frankly, it was that simple.
Reading is what saved me from a lot of bad moments during my time in middle school. I spent every single free hours I had in the library because, in the courtyard, other pupils would be mean to me. Asking me if I were a satanist or a dominatrix and why I was so ugly, ect… At least, in the library, I was safe. Everyone was quiet and I could get out for a moment without feeling humiliated. I kept reading Harry Potter, but the serie of books that really made me feel better and better was A Serie Of Unfortunate Events (isn’t it ironic!).
This is how I acquired a new taste for books. I would only read comics before, which is not a lesser form of art, but which doesn’t ask for too much effort of concentration and imagination. The Alice books turned out to be perfect in this area because I had to imagine everything: Lewis Carroll told me an clear accumulation of events and all I had to do was to picture wonderland and the looking glass land in my mind.
I remember having more pleasure while reading it in English, when I finally learned enough to figure everything out. I bought my first English copy on my first year of high school, and was amazed by how simple and clever the narration was. I truly had the feeling I could fall into the story and never leave.
This was how the obsession began, along with the fact that I had fallen in love with the author. Since I was younger, my fascination with Alice was way more extreme than it is right now, even though it’s still very strong. I began to hate the Disney adaptation and managed to find severe flaws in the McGee’s Alice storyline, but I still gave it an escuse: it was the sequel of the two books. The Disney adaptation was directly inspired from the books. But now that I have seen the Burton adaptation, I don’t complain about the animated Alice anymore…
I made an Alice related blog and talked about the books a lot with my mother, who was, and still is, pretty much the only person to never blame me for being so passionate. My friends didn’t liked it much when I told to them about Alice, as for my cousin, who finally told me that my interest for these books and my love for Lewis Carroll was self-destructive and would only lead me to forget about the real world. I did take her words seriously because I loved her, but I would never have given up on a world I was secure in just to feel more in touch with reality, which was unfair and cruel. I still refuse to give up on it. I’m not afraid to lose myself in something I use as a protection against evil.
I guess I lost myself in my own story… To be honest, everything is a bit confused as I don’t know exactly where all began. Sometimes, I consider this obsession to be a kind of sweet poison that never left me. I think my love for Lewis Carroll is so deep-rooted within my heart that I can’t even think for one second what it would be like to live without thinking about him and Wonderland. Loving him makes me more happy than desperate. In the end, I feel like the world he created is a part of me now, and giving it up just to feel “normal” again would be like brainwashing myself. This is the last thing I want.
"If you could visit Wonderland/Looking-Glass Land who would you like to meet? What would you do on your trip?"
I tend to think that Wonderland only lives in Alice’s mind, and that other people cannot go there. However, everyone has their own Wonderland, their own special place that comes to life when they sleep.
So I cannot say who I would like to meet or what I would do in someone else’s dream. Wonderland doesn’t have a map or rules. There might be many more other creatures than the ones shown in the books. Other places and different adventures to be lived there.
If I really had to choose, I would meet my two favorite characters of course: the Cheschire Cat and the White Knight. I would also like to witness a Mad Tea party, and be stuck in tea-time until I decide to leave. I also would like to visit the Sheep’s Shop, where nothing it what it seems to be.
That’s about all really ^^ Sorry for the boring answer.
The trouble with this question is, I have too many ideas! Most of these crossover involves Lewis Carroll/Mr Dodgson as well. Let me list you my favorites with a little explaination.
In this crossover, Alice lives in our modern world. Her parents have a difficult relationship or are divorced and she doesn’t feel like she belongs everywhere. Until one day, while she’s waiting to take the bus home. She sees a strange creature looking like a rabbit plushie crossing the road. She decides to follow him and goes inside an abandoned building. You can easily guess the rest of the story. It’s basically the same story, but with a “silent hill” “Jan Svankmajer” feel to it. A part of me wants to direct it, but I’m scared it would be too weird for kids to watch it.
Phantom will certainly explain it much better than me as I don’t watch Dr Who. But I would love to see an episode where the Doctor meets Mr Dodgson at Christ Church and partly inspire him to write Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, especially the Mad Tea Party. It would make sense since the Doctor knows Time like an aquintance! “If you knew time as well as I do, you wouldn’t talk about wasting it. It’s him.”
Of course, I would love to see Tom Hiddleston take the role of Lewis Carroll. He would be brilliant.
Okay, this one is a bit silly and extremely confusing ^^’ I love the idea of Mr Dodgson teaching at Hogwarts instead of Christ Church. I imagine he would teach students the magical properties of the looking glass and science of time-travel. I’m sure he would have been sorted in Ravnclaw too :)
The hardest part is done. All I have to draw now are the bricks. Another 2 hundred of them at least. It might take a while.
Alice Challenge: Day 12
"Least favorite adaptation"
(WARNING: this is going to be an extremely harsh critique. The adaptation I am going to rant about is one of the things I hate the most in existence, so if you recognised it and actually enjoy this movie, I recommend you not to read this post. I am serious, please, I respect your artistic taste and I don’t want you to hate me.)
This said, let’s talk about Tim Burton’s/Disney’s Alice in Wonderland…
When I made this post about American McGee’s Alice, I wanted other people to know that it was this game that made me read, and love the Alice books. Now, I want people to know that this movie is the adaptation that almost made me hate Alice forever.
It is THAT bad…
And yet I had such hope. I was convinced that this movie was going to be a masterpiece. When I first heard the news that Tim Burton, my favourite director of all time, was doing a collaboration with Disney to make an adaptation of the book I had dedicated my life to, I got overexcited. It was the miracle I had been waiting for. It was finally going to happen. FOR REAL!
I searched everything about this project, followed it like a puppy. I’ve gone so far as organizing a day out for the students in my highschool so we could all see this movie together. I wanted it to be something big and I succeded: 20 people suscribed and paid their ticket for this event. I had verything under control: I drew a poster for the event and went to buy the tickets all by myself in the big town I knew nothing about at the time.
(Here’s the poster:
now it just looks stupid…)
Oh dear me… she was so wrong.
I’m not going to lie: I hated it from the start. I hated the intro, I hated “the best people are mad” bullshit, I hated Bayard, I hated the blurry CGI, I hated the 3D effects, I hated the storyline (which is nothing but a censored version of the video game’s intrigue), I hated the bobblehead Queen Of Hearts, the cocaine-addict Hare and the Jabberwock… GOD I HATE THE JABBERWOCK! YOU DON’T MAKE CHRISTOPHER LEE VOICE THE JABBERWOCK AND GIVE HIM ONE SINGLE FUCKING LINE IN THE WHOLE FUCKING MOVIE! ARE YOU NUTS! (sorry, sorry…)
The only characters I liked were Alice and the White Queen. Why that? Because they are almost exactly how I had pictured them to be. Except, you know… I imagined Alice to be a little girl, not a grown-up. But anyway, Mia Wasikovska did a great job and so did Anne Hathaway.
But the rest of the cast, oh goodness… I had never seen such a display of over-the-top acting from actors I used to admire before. The Depp/Carter duo was a catastrophe.
And then it came…
I should have predicted it. He kept talking about it every chance he had…
The fuCKING BREAKDANCE HOLY FUCKING SHIT ON A FRYING PAN!
HOW BURTON? JUST HOW COULD YOU HAVE KILLED YOUR OWN REPUTATION IN SUCH AN AWFUL WAY AND DRAG WITH YOU YOUR SO CALLED “BEST FRIEND” AND A PERFECTLY RESPECTABLE AUTHOR? YOU MADE LEWIS CARROLL ROLL IN HIS GRAVE FOR THE 10000068787909090 TIME AND YOU ALMOST MADE ME PUKE!
SHAME ON YOU BURTON
SHAME ON YOU
Okay… It was kind of a blur after that. The ending didn’t matter. The only thing this movie managed to do after this dreadful episode was to heaten my wrath when the credits rolled and a wild Avril Lavigne sang a song about “tripping out” in Wonderland.
I… hAAAATe… Avril Lavigne.
When I finally got out from this hellish vision. I wandered about in the street. All alone. Trying to find inner peace. I was in denial. I told myself over and over: “come one, it can’t be that bad. There must be something you like about it. Just give it another chance.” But no, nothing… I tried and nothing from this movie managed to make me smile, or even light a tiny spark of interest. I hated everything about it, and everything associated with it.
This is when I started to forget about the books. To some extend, it was like somebody I trusted decided to torture me with Alice related items. The only thing I was able to see when I read the book or saw other adaptations was how this movie could have been changed. I mean: I expected a masterpiece and all I got was the feeling that Alice was losing it’s originality to become, yet again, another right-minded Disney movie.
Fortunately, I grew out of that. Like after a break-up. I accepted the fact that Burton had failed, and I lost my respect and admiration for him completely. Now, I feel much better and try not to feel too passionate about an adaptation anymore. The books are here, safe and sound, and still as wonderful as ever.
In short: I SPIT ON THIS MOVIE. MAY YOU BE FORGOTTEN.